{"id":7916,"date":"2020-06-12T08:01:07","date_gmt":"2020-06-12T08:01:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp.erdmost.hu\/2020\/06\/12\/arc-nelkul\/"},"modified":"2022-03-01T21:39:04","modified_gmt":"2022-03-01T21:39:04","slug":"arc-nelkul","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/2020\/06\/12\/arc-nelkul\/","title":{"rendered":"Arc n\u00e9lk\u00fcl"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Azok kedv\u00e9\u00e9rt, akik nem tudn\u00e1k, mir\u0151l is van sz\u00f3, vagy m\u00e9g nem hallottak a fent eml\u00edtett oldalr\u00f3l, r\u00f6viden. K\u00e9sz\u00edtett\u00fcnk egy <a href=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/2020\/06\/10\/orulhetunk-e-felhotlenul-az-erdi-varosligetnek\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">interj\u00fat<\/a> Kov\u00e1cs P\u00e9ter Barn\u00e1val, a Papi f\u00f6ldek hely\u00e9re tervezett \u00e9rdi \u201eV\u00e1rosliget\u201d projektvezet\u0151j\u00e9vel. Mihalicz Csilla koll\u00e9gan\u0151m annak rendje \u00e9s m\u00f3dja szerint felk\u00e9sz\u00fclt a besz\u00e9lget\u00e9sre, \u00e9s igyekezett megtudni egy s m\u00e1st a beruh\u00e1z\u00e1sr\u00f3l. P\u00e9ld\u00e1ul azt, hogyan halad, mikor adj\u00e1k \u00e1t, mennyibe ker\u00fcl; \u00e9s persze r\u00e1k\u00e9rdezett a z\u00e1port\u00e1roz\u00f3val kapcsolatos n\u00e9h\u00e1ny k\u00f6rnyezetv\u00e9delmi probl\u00e9m\u00e1ra is.<\/p>\n<p>Tudom, hogy az \u00e9rdi olvas\u00f3k (t\u00e9v\u00e9n\u00e9z\u0151k, r\u00e1di\u00f3hallgat\u00f3k, internetez\u0151k) nem az eff\u00e9le v\u00e1s\u00e1ri iszapbirk\u00f3z\u00e1sra k\u00edv\u00e1ncsiak, mint amibe az \u00c9rdi Oldal igyekszik beler\u00e1ngatni minket, ez\u00e9rt meg\u00edg\u00e9rem, hogy nem lesz gyakorlat n\u00e1lunk reag\u00e1lni n\u00e9v \u00e9s arc n\u00e9lk\u00fcli \u00edr\u00e1sokra.<\/p>\n<p>Teh\u00e1t.<\/p>\n<p>Mihalicz Csilla koll\u00e9gan\u0151m nem \u201evallatta\u201d Kov\u00e1cs P\u00e9ter Barn\u00e1t, hanem k\u00e9rdezte. \u00dagy, ahogy az elv\u00e1rhat\u00f3 egy \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00f3t\u00f3l.<\/p>\n<p>Csill\u00e1t nem a \u201eMagyar Narancst\u00f3l k\u00fcldt\u00e9k \u00c9rdre\u201d. B\u00e1r tizenegyn\u00e9h\u00e1ny \u00e9vvel ezel\u0151tt val\u00f3ban dolgozott a lapn\u00e1l (\u00e9s m\u00e1s lapokn\u00e1l is), \u00e9s az\u00f3ta is \u00edrt n\u00e9h\u00e1ny cikket k\u00fcls\u0151sk\u00e9nt. Jelenleg szabad\u00fasz\u00f3, gyakorlott t\u00e9nyfelt\u00e1r\u00f3 \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00f3, \u00e9s \u00f6r\u00f6mmel vett\u00fck csatlakoz\u00e1s\u00e1t az \u00c9rdi \u00dajs\u00e1g csapat\u00e1hoz.<\/p>\n<p>Csilla am\u00fagy betelep\u00fclt \u00e9rdi, ahogy \u00c9rd lakoss\u00e1g\u00e1nak jelent\u0151s r\u00e9sze. Kilenc \u00e9ve \u00e9l itt.<\/p>\n<p>Ami a konkr\u00e9tumokat illeti. Koll\u00e9gan\u0151m joggal k\u00e9rdezett a j\u00e1tsz\u00f3t\u00e9rr\u0151l, amellyel kapcsolatban \u2013 ellent\u00e9tben azzal, amit a blogbejegyz\u00e9s sugall \u2013 rend\u0151rs\u00e9gi nyomoz\u00e1s folyik, ismeretlen tettes ellen, foglalkoz\u00e1s k\u00f6r\u00e9ben elk\u00f6vetett vesz\u00e9lyeztet\u00e9s v\u00e9ts\u00e9g\u00e9nek gyan\u00faja miatt, a R\u00e1ckevei Rend\u0151rkapit\u00e1nys\u00e1gon. (Ahogy egy\u00e9bk\u00e9nt az el\u0151z\u0151 v\u00e1rosvezet\u00e9s csatornaberuh\u00e1z\u00e1s\u00e1val \u00e9s a Sport Kft. gazd\u00e1lkod\u00e1s\u00e1val kapcsolatban is.)<\/p>\n<p>Ellent\u00e9tben azzal, amit a bejegyz\u00e9s \u00edr, T. M\u00e9sz\u00e1ros Andr\u00e1s horg\u00e1sztavat \u00edg\u00e9rt az \u00e9rdieknek, ahogy az a k\u00f6zszolg\u00e1lati telev\u00edzi\u00f3 <a href=\"http:\/\/erdhirado.hu\/saj%C3%A1t-tavat-kaphatnak-az-%C3%A9rdi-horg%C3%A1szok-33936\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">helyi tud\u00f3s\u00edt\u00e1s\u00e1b\u00f3l<\/a> 2016-ban kider\u00fcl. \u201eT\u00f6bb mint harminc esztendeje, hogy az \u00e9rdi horg\u00e1szok egyes\u00fcletbe t\u00f6m\u00f6r\u00fcltek, azonban mostan\u00e1ig kellett v\u00e1rniuk arra, hogy saj\u00e1t tavuk legyen. J\u00f6v\u0151re megval\u00f3sulhat az \u00e1lmuk: 2017 tavasz\u00e1ra k\u00e9sz\u00fclhet el az \u00e9rdi z\u00e1port\u00e1roz\u00f3, ahol sz\u00e1mukra is elk\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00edt egy r\u00e9szt a v\u00e1ros \u2013 jelentette be T. M\u00e9sz\u00e1ros Andr\u00e1s polg\u00e1rmester az \u00c9rd \u00e9s K\u00f6rny\u00e9ke Horg\u00e1szegyes\u00fclet szombaton tartott \u00e9ves k\u00f6zgy\u0171l\u00e9s\u00e9n\u201d. (Spoiler: nem k\u00e9sz\u00fclt el, mint ahogy semmi m\u00e1s sem arrafel\u00e9, pedig \u00e1ll\u00edt\u00f3lag megvolt r\u00e1 a p\u00e9nz.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201eLerohasztani, amit az el\u0151z\u0151en (sic!) \u00e9p\u00edtettek, majd bag\u00f3\u00e9rt \u00e1tpasszolni a baloldali \u00fczletembereknek?\u201d \u2013 teszi fel a k\u00e9rd\u00e9st a szerz\u0151. M\u00e1r hogy mit? Hol van itt b\u00e1rmi is meg\u00e9p\u00edtve &#8212; n\u00e9h\u00e1ny \u00f6lt\u00f6z\u0151n \u00e9s b\u00fcf\u00e9placcon k\u00edv\u00fcl &#8211;, amit \u00e1t lehetne passzolni? Val\u00f3j\u00e1ban hol az p\u00e9nz, amib\u0151l meg kellett volna \u00e9p\u00edteni a rendezv\u00e9nyk\u00f6zpontot is?<\/p>\n<p>Azt, hogy a v\u00edz fek\u00e1li\u00e1val szennyezett, nem az \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00f3 \u00e1ll\u00edtotta, hanem az interj\u00faalany.<\/p>\n<p>Egy dologban val\u00f3ban pontatlanul fogalmaztunk: T. M\u00e9sz\u00e1ros Andr\u00e1s polg\u00e1rmester \u00far t\u00e9nyleg nem \u00edg\u00e9rte, hogy az \u00e9rdiek a t\u00f3ban f\u00fcr\u00f6dhetnek. Azt Sim\u00f3 K\u00e1roly <a href=\"http:\/\/archiv.erdmost.hu\/2017\/08\/09\/18-milliard-forint-erkezik-magasepitesre\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mondta<\/a> egy sajt\u00f3t\u00e1j\u00e9koztat\u00f3n, amelyet T. M\u00e9sz\u00e1ros Andr\u00e1s polg\u00e1rmester \u00farral k\u00f6z\u00f6sen tartott. \u201eP\u00e1r \u00e9ven bel\u00fcl az \u00e9rdiek a forr\u00f3 napokat m\u00e1r a t\u00f3parton t\u00f6lthetik. A v\u00edz a legt\u00f6bb ponton 1,5-2 m\u00e9ter m\u00e9ly lesz, de kialak\u00edtanak olyan r\u00e9szt, ami a b\u00fav\u00e1rkod\u00e1sra is alkalmas lesz&#8221; \u2013 mondotta Sim\u00f3 \u00far.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9s m\u00e9g valami. A blogger id\u00e9zi Csilla egy mondat\u00e1t az nlc.hu-r\u00f3l, amelyr\u0151l \u00fagy v\u00e9li, ler\u00e1ntja a leplet az \u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1suk szerint pesti, am\u00fagy \u00c9rden \u00e9l\u0151 \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00f3r\u00f3l, akit csak a p\u00e9nz \u00e9rdekel. \u201eM\u00e1r nem hiszek az \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00e1sban, de szeretem csin\u00e1lni\u201d \u2013 \u00edrod. Ismer\u0151s a manipul\u00e1ci\u00f3nak ez a m\u00f3dja, mostan\u00e1ban v\u00e1laszt\u00e1sokat is lehet nyerni vele. Csilla tudniillik egy gondolatsor r\u00e9sz\u00e9nek sz\u00e1nta a fenti mondatot, amely eredetiben \u00edgy folytat\u00f3dik: \u201e\u2026ez\u00e9rt vagyok szabad\u00fasz\u00f3. Meg az\u00e9rt, mert az olvas\u00f3k olykor megingatj\u00e1k ezt a nemhitemet. A csuda tudja, mire kell m\u00e9g a sz\u00f3, de kell. Az igaz is, meg a hazug is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Szerintem a hazug annyira nem kell. Persze arc n\u00e9lk\u00fcl a hazugs\u00e1g is k\u00f6nnyebben cs\u00faszik.<\/p>\n<p>\u00dcdv\u00f6zlettel:<br \/>\nK\u00f6vesdi P\u00e9ter, az \u00c9rdi \u00dajs\u00e1g f\u0151szerkeszt\u0151je<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Furcsa, kiss\u00e9 barokkos \u00edr\u00e1s jelent meg az \u00c9rdi Oldal nev\u0171 internetes helyen, cs\u00fct\u00f6rt\u00f6k\u00f6n. Az \u201eIlyen hazug interj\u00fat \u00edrni val\u00f3di brav\u00far \u2013 \u00c9rdi \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00f3k helyett egyre ink\u00e1bb pestiek kapnak fel\u00fcletet\u201d c\u00edm\u0171 munka tartalmaz n\u00e9h\u00e1ny \u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1st, amelyet ez\u00fattal pontos\u00edtan\u00e1nk.\u00a0<\/p>","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"cikk_cimkek":[15],"content_flags":[],"content_icons":[],"class_list":["post-7916","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-erdmost","cikk_cimkek-kozelet"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7916","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7916"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7916\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29592,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7916\/revisions\/29592"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7916"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7916"},{"taxonomy":"cikk_cimkek","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/cikk_cimkek?post=7916"},{"taxonomy":"content_flags","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/content_flags?post=7916"},{"taxonomy":"content_icons","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/content_icons?post=7916"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}