{"id":66767,"date":"2023-05-17T10:52:09","date_gmt":"2023-05-17T08:52:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/?p=66767"},"modified":"2023-05-17T13:05:36","modified_gmt":"2023-05-17T11:05:36","slug":"gorog-ibolya-12-ev-alatt-7-miniszterelnokom-volt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/2023\/05\/17\/gorog-ibolya-12-ev-alatt-7-miniszterelnokom-volt\/","title":{"rendered":"G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya: &#8222;12 \u00e9v alatt 7 minisztereln\u00f6k\u00f6m volt&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8222;Nem az \u00edrott t\u00f6rv\u00e9nyeket kell betartani, hanem az \u00edratlanokat&#8221; &#8211; ezzel a k\u00ednai mond\u00e1ssal kezdte \u00e9rdi el\u0151ad\u00e1s\u00e1t G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya, aki 1987-t\u0151l 1999-ig minisztereln\u00f6ki protokollf\u0151n\u00f6k volt. Mint mondta, 12 \u00e9v alatt h\u00e9t minisztereln\u00f6ke volt.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eA protokoll nagyon fontos rendez\u0151elv, mert az eg\u00e9sz vil\u00e1gon egyforma, \u00e9s ha ett\u0151l elt\u00e9rnek, annak jelent\u00e9se van. Ha k\u00e9t orsz\u00e1g nagyk\u00f6vete nem fog egym\u00e1ssal kezet, akkor az a k\u00e9t orsz\u00e1g h\u00e1bor\u00fas viszonyban \u00e1ll\u201d &#8211; magyar\u00e1zta G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya.<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66770\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699167-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699167-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699167-747x560.jpg 747w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699167-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>A szakember szerint a protokoll egy dolog, a mindennapi viselked\u00e9skult\u00fara megint m\u00e1s. Persze, vannak szab\u00e1lyok, mire figyelj\u00fcnk a tegez\u00e9s-mag\u00e1z\u00e1s, k\u00f6sz\u00f6n\u00e9s, bemutatkoz\u00e1s, k\u00e9zfog\u00e1s, s\u0151t, k\u00e9zcs\u00f3k sor\u00e1n. (Ha az urak\u00a0 r\u00e1hajolnak a h\u00f6lgy kez\u00e9re, az a tisztelet jele, de ha meg is cs\u00f3kolj\u00e1k, az m\u00e1r petting.)<\/p>\n<p>A viselked\u00e9skult\u00fara alapja a pozit\u00edv arckifejez\u00e9s. \u201eNem kell big love &#8211; csak legyen szimpatikus. Az emberis\u00e9g egyik fele nem az\u00e9rt \u00e9l, hogy dajk\u00e1lja a m\u00e1sikat. Az \u00f6r\u00f6k\u00f6s panaszkod\u00e1s nem \u00e9ri meg, mert a vil\u00e1gon senkit nem \u00e9rdekel. Legfeljebb arra j\u00f3, hogy az orvosi rendel\u0151ben feltuningoljuk a m\u00e1sikat\u201d &#8211; mondta a k\u00f6z\u00f6ns\u00e9g nagy nevet\u00e9se k\u00f6zben Ibolya.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66771\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699351-1024x766.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"766\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699351-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699351-749x560.jpg 749w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699351-300x224.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><br \/>\nNemcsak az arckifejez\u00e9s\u00fcnk \u00e1rulkod\u00f3, hanem az is, mennyire vagyunk \u00e1poltak, f\u00e9rfiakn\u00e1l pedig a borotv\u00e1lkoz\u00e1s t\u00e9nye sokatmond\u00f3.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201eA munk\u00e1ban vagy az \u00fcgyint\u00e9z\u00e9s sor\u00e1n a <em>tanult ember<\/em> ker\u00fcl el\u0151t\u00e9rbe, nem pedig a <em>n\u0151<\/em> illetve a <em>f\u00e9rfi<\/em>. A tanult ember szerepben egy f\u00e9rfinak minden reggel meg kell borotv\u00e1lkoznia&#8221; &#8211; figyelmeztetett G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya.<\/p>\n<p>&#8222;Ha arcsz\u0151rzete van, l\u00e1tsz\u00f3djon, hogy \u00e1polja. A <em>m\u0171borosta<\/em> nonverb\u00e1lis jel, azt sugallja, hogy az illet\u0151nek olyan \u00e9jszak\u00e1ja volt, ami ut\u00e1n nem volt ideje megborotv\u00e1lkozni. Ha ilyen f\u00e9rfit l\u00e1tok, keresem rajta az arany karl\u00e1ncot &#8211; mert a kett\u0151 szorosan \u00f6sszef\u00fcgg -, \u00e9s nem mondok neki hossz\u00fa szavakat.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66772\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699041-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699041-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699041-747x560.jpg 747w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699041-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya a h\u00f6lgyeknek is adott tan\u00e1csot, hogyan \u00e9rdemes \u00f6lt\u00f6zk\u00f6dn\u00fcnk:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Az elegancia bentr\u0151l kifele j\u00f6n, nem azon m\u00falik, milyen dr\u00e1ga ruha van rajtunk, hanem azon, hogy tartjuk magunkat.<\/li>\n<li>Azt kell felvenni, amit el akarok hitetni magamr\u00f3l: feh\u00e9r k\u00f6peny, v\u00e9rnyom\u00e1sm\u00e9r\u0151vel, az orvos. V\u00e9rnyom\u00e1sm\u00e9r\u0151 n\u00e9lk\u00fcl p\u00e9k. Azaz a szerephez kell hitelesnek lenni. A piacra p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul nem megyek le koszt\u00fcmben.<\/li>\n<li>A sz\u0151ke n\u0151<span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"> nem hajsz\u00edn, hanem \u00e1llapot.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Sz\u00f3 ker\u00fclt a telefon\u00e1l\u00e1s etikettj\u00e9r\u0151l is. \u201e\u00c9n mindenkit visszah\u00edvok. Nem kell felvenni \u00e1lland\u00f3an &#8211; ha este 10-kor lefekszik valaki, ut\u00e1na m\u00e1r ne vegye fel. Megjegyzem: ha valaki engem \u00e9jjel 11 ut\u00e1n mer h\u00edvni, \u00e9s \u00e9n ezt reggel hatkor l\u00e1tom, akkor reggel hatkor h\u00edvom vissza.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66773\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699111-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699111-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699111-747x560.jpg 747w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699111-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Sok j\u00f3 tan\u00e1csot kapott a n\u00e9z\u0151 az \u00e9let sz\u00e1mtalan olyan ter\u00fclet\u00e9r\u0151l, ahol fontos a viselked\u00e9s, a m\u00e1sikra val\u00f3 odafigyel\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9s hogy m\u00e9g mi fontos? A tolerancia, a bel\u00e1t\u00e1s. Annak elfogad\u00e1sa, hogy v\u00e1ltoznak az id\u0151k, az emberek.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eNem tudok mindenkit megnevelni. Hetente h\u00e1rom el\u0151ad\u00e1st tartok, hintem a tant, de ha nem fogadja meg a tan\u00e1csaimat, nem mehetek oda orrba v\u00e1gni. Azon morfond\u00edrozni, hogy bezzeg kor\u00e1bban nem \u00edgy viselkedtek az emberek, csak keser\u0171s\u00e9get okoz. Ezt nem szabad! A mostaniakb\u00f3l kell kihozni azt, amit lehet. Legfeljebb kir\u00f6h\u00f6g\u00f6d.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66774\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699263-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699263-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699263-747x560.jpg 747w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266699263-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Az el\u0151ad\u00e1s ut\u00e1n G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya a Szepes aul\u00e1j\u00e1ban dedik\u00e1lta a k\u00f6nyv\u00e9t, majd kedvesen v\u00e1laszolt az \u00c9rdMost k\u00e9rd\u00e9seire.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201eAki k\u00f6zszerepl\u0151, annak az\u00e9rt kell ismernie a szab\u00e1lyokat, mert ha hib\u00e1t v\u00e9t, annak s\u00falya van, ak\u00e1r az orsz\u00e1g\u00e1ra n\u00e9zve is, amit k\u00e9pvisel. Egy \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00f3nak pedig az\u00e9rt kell t\u00f6r\u0151dnie ezzel, mert mint\u00e1t ad. Ha \u0151 le\u00fcl nagyterpeszben, akkor nekem is lehet&#8221; &#8211; figyelmeztetett a szakember.<\/p>\n<p>Protokollf\u0151n\u00f6kk\u00e9nt nem az volt feladata, hogy a minisztereln\u00f6k\u00f6t viselked\u00e9sre tan\u00edtsa. Hanem az, hogy a rendezv\u00e9nyek k\u00f6r\u00fcli teend\u0151ket v\u00e9gezze, \u00e9s a napi programj\u00e1ban seg\u00edtse az orsz\u00e1g els\u0151 ember\u00e9t.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66775\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266698974-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266698974-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266698974-747x560.jpg 747w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684266698974-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u201eAkkor lehetett sz\u00f3lni, ha \u0151 megk\u00e9rdezte. Erre Antall J\u00f3zsef eset\u00e9ben volt csak p\u00e9lda. \u00c9s ha m\u00e1r megk\u00e9rdezte, akkor el is fogadta a v\u00e9lem\u00e9nyemet&#8221; &#8211; eml\u00e9kezett G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya.<\/p>\n<p>Mint mondta, a Covid-j\u00e1rv\u00e1ny alapjaiban v\u00e1ltoztatta meg a megszokott t\u00e1rsadalmi \u00e9rintkez\u00e9si form\u00e1kat. Ugyanakkor sorra visszat\u00e9rnek a r\u00e9gi szok\u00e1sok, tal\u00e1n a k\u00e9zfog\u00e1s kiv\u00e9tel\u00e9vel.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66776\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879887-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879887-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879887-747x560.jpg 747w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879887-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><br \/>\nR\u00e1k\u00e9rdezt\u00fcnk arra is, hogy mi manaps\u00e1g a helyzet a tegez\u0151d\u00e9ssel \u00e9s a mag\u00e1z\u00f3d\u00e1ssal, hiszen az el\u0151bbi egyre nagyobb teret h\u00f3d\u00edt. Ibolya szerint az ember bels\u0151 hangja mindig megs\u00fagja, kivel tegez\u0151dhet \u00e9s kivel nem.<\/p>\n<p>Szerinte a tegez\u00e9s sz\u0171k k\u00f6rnek sz\u00f3l, a mag\u00e1z\u00e1s mindenkinek. Ha megk\u00e9rik, hogy n\u00e9zzen meg egy honlapot, \u00e9s azt l\u00e1tja, hogy tegezve \u00edrt\u00e1k, el sem olvassa.<\/p>\n<p>G\u00f6r\u00f6g Ibolya \u00fagy l\u00e1tja: viselked\u00e9skult\u00far\u00e1ra p\u00e9ldamutat\u00e1ssal \u00e9s humorral lehet nevelni. \u201eAz emberek k\u00e9t dologra kapj\u00e1k fel a fej\u00fcket: ha valaki k\u00e1romkodik, vagy ha valaki humoros. Ez ut\u00f3bbihoz pedig intelligencia kell.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-66777\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879967-1024x766.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"766\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879967-1024x766.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879967-749x560.jpg 749w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/1684268879967-300x224.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Im\u00e1dt\u00e1k \u00c9rden a b\u00f6lcs \u00e9s vicces minisztereln\u00f6ki 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