{"id":103576,"date":"2024-08-09T18:09:25","date_gmt":"2024-08-09T16:09:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/?p=103576"},"modified":"2024-08-09T18:25:17","modified_gmt":"2024-08-09T16:25:17","slug":"fabiny-tamas-elhatarolodott-az-erdi-lelkesz-szavaitol","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/2024\/08\/09\/fabiny-tamas-elhatarolodott-az-erdi-lelkesz-szavaitol\/","title":{"rendered":"Fabiny Tam\u00e1s elhat\u00e1rol\u00f3dott az \u00e9rdi lelk\u00e9sz szavait\u00f3l"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Fabiny Tam\u00e1s evang\u00e9likus p\u00fcsp\u00f6k \u00fajra elhat\u00e1rol\u00f3dott az \u00e9rdi lelk\u00e9sz szavait\u00f3l &#8211;<a href=\"https:\/\/444.hu\/2024\/08\/09\/fabiny-tamas-evangelikus-puspok-ujra-elhatarolodott-az-erdi-lelkesz-szavaitol-de-lezartnak-tekinti-az-ugyet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> adta h\u00edr\u00fc<\/a>l a 444.hu.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/2024\/08\/08\/van-amikor-az-isten-sir-az-ember-cselekedetei-lattan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ahogy arr\u00f3l az \u00c9rdMost is besz\u00e1molt<\/a>\u00a0Labossa P\u00e9ter Mih\u00e1ly vas\u00e1rnapi pr\u00e9dik\u00e1ci\u00f3j\u00e1nak egy r\u00e9sz\u00e9t \u00fagy lehetett \u00e9rtelmezni, hogy a zsid\u00f3s\u00e1g, mivel elutas\u00edtotta J\u00e9zust, tulajdonk\u00e9ppen mag\u00e1nak k\u00f6sz\u00f6nheti a holokausztot, amelyet \u00edgy Isten megengedett.<\/p>\n<p>A h\u00edr nagy port vert fel, t\u00f6bbek k\u00f6zt Fabiny Tam\u00e1s, az Evang\u00e9likus Egyh\u00e1z eln\u00f6k-p\u00fcsp\u00f6ke is nyilatkozott az \u00fcgyben: bek\u00e9rte a teljes pr\u00e9dik\u00e1ci\u00f3 hanganyag\u00e1t, mert ami elhangzott, az \u201esajnos t\u00f6bb elfogadhatatlan megfogalmaz\u00e1st tartalmazott.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-103387\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-peter.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-peter.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-peter-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-peter-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-peter-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-peter-996x560.jpg 996w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-peter-1100x619.jpg 1100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Egy nappal k\u00e9s\u0151bb Labossa P\u00e9ter Mih\u00e1ly <a href=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/en\/2024\/08\/08\/bocsanatot-kert-az-erdi-lelkesz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">bocs\u00e1natot k\u00e9rt<\/a>. Az Evang\u00e9likus Egyh\u00e1z honlapj\u00e1n cs\u00fct\u00f6rt\u00f6k\u00f6n megjelent<a href=\"https:\/\/www.evangelikus.hu\/hireink\/kozlemeny\/a-holokauszt-relativizalasanak-minden-formajat-elutasitja-az-erdi-lelkesz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00a0k\u00f6zlem\u00e9ny\u00e9ben<\/a> a lelk\u00e9sz azt \u00edrta, kiragadtak r\u00e9szleteket az igehirdet\u00e9s\u00e9b\u0151l, amelyeket\u00a0 &#8222;\u00fagy lehetett \u00e9rtelmezni, mintha a holokauszt a J\u00e9zus korabeli zsid\u00f3 vezet\u0151k megnyilatkoz\u00e1sa miatt Isten b\u00fcntet\u00e9se lett volna. Ett\u0151l az \u00e9rtelmez\u00e9st\u0151l elhat\u00e1rol\u00f3dom.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Fabiny a teljes sz\u00f6veg meghallgat\u00e1sa ut\u00e1n a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.valaszonline.hu\/2024\/08\/09\/zsidok-keresztenyseg-evangelikus-lelkesz-fabinyi-tamas-labossa-peter-erd\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">V\u00e1laszonline.hu-n<\/a> &#8222;Elhat\u00e1rol\u00f3dom&#8221; c\u00edmmel k\u00f6z\u00f6lte gondolatait. Mint \u00edrja: \u201eaz igemagyar\u00e1zat egyes r\u00e9szeit \u00fagy lehetett \u00e9rtelmezni, mintha a holokausztot Isten a J\u00e9zust elutas\u00edt\u00f3 zsid\u00f3 csoportok magatart\u00e1sa \u00e9s szavai miatt engedte volna meg.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Fabiny szerint ez s\u00falyos tartalmi probl\u00e9ma, \u00e9s sz\u00f6ges ellent\u00e9tben \u00e1ll az egyh\u00e1z biblikus tan\u00edt\u00e1s\u00e1val, hogy J\u00e9zus keresztre fesz\u00edt\u00e9s\u00e9\u00e9rt s\u00fajtotta volna a zsid\u00f3kat k\u00e9s\u0151bbi \u00e9vsz\u00e1zadok \u00e9s \u00e9vezredek megannyi csap\u00e1sa.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-103386\" src=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-temploma-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-temploma-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-temploma-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-temploma-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-temploma-16x12.jpg 16w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-temploma-747x560.jpg 747w, https:\/\/erdmost.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/labossa-temploma-1067x800.jpg 1067w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u201eEtt\u0151l az egyh\u00e1z eln\u00f6k-p\u00fcsp\u00f6kek\u00e9nt elhat\u00e1rol\u00f3dom. Egyh\u00e1zunk az antiszemitizmussal szemben a z\u00e9r\u00f3 tolerancia elv\u00e9t k\u00f6veti. A tan\u00edt\u00e1s egyszer\u0171: az evang\u00e9liumot k\u00f6vet\u0151 ember \u2013 hitvall\u00e1si okokb\u00f3l \u2013 nem lehet antiszemita.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A p\u00f6sp\u00f6k a pr\u00e9dik\u00e1ci\u00f3 egy\u00e9b r\u00e9szeit is kifog\u00e1solta, \u00e9s ezt a lelk\u00e9sznek is elmondta.<\/p>\n<p>\u201eB\u00e1r az igehirdet\u00e9sben elhangzottakat v\u00e1ltozatlanul sajn\u00e1latosnak tartom, azt pozit\u00edv tapasztalatk\u00e9nt \u00e9lem meg, hogy \u0151szint\u00e9n \u00e9s testv\u00e9ri m\u00f3don tudtunk besz\u00e9lni err\u0151l Labossa P\u00e9terrel, aki bel\u00e1tta, hogy helytelen\u00fcl fogalmazott, \u00e9s ezt kifejez\u00e9sre is juttatta. Bizonyos vagyok benne, hogy szolg\u00e1lat\u00e1t \u2013 a sz\u00fcks\u00e9ges tanuls\u00e1gokat levonva \u2013 J\u00e9zus h\u0171s\u00e9ges tan\u00edtv\u00e1nyak\u00e9nt k\u00edv\u00e1nja mindig folytatni.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Azt gondolja, hogy ezzel lez\u00e1rtnak tekinthetik ezt a \u201ekonkr\u00e9t szomor\u00fa \u00fcgyet\u201d, de p\u00fcsp\u00f6kt\u00e1rsaival kezdem\u00e9nyezte, hogy a k\u00f6zelj\u00f6v\u0151ben ny\u00edlt f\u00f3rumokon besz\u00e9ljenek ezekr\u0151l a teol\u00f3giai, t\u00f6rt\u00e9nelmi \u00e9s t\u00e1rsadalmi k\u00e9rd\u00e9sekr\u0151l.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Az evang\u00e9likus vezet\u0151 szerint Labossa P\u00e9ter Mih\u00e1ly igemagyar\u00e1zata sz\u00f6ges ellent\u00e9tben \u00e1ll az egyh\u00e1z biblikus 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